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Digital Green Crop Yield Estimate Challenge

Helping India
€9 400 EUR
Completed (over 2 years ago)
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1368 joined
678 active
Starti
Sep 04, 23
Closei
Dec 03, 23
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Dec 03, 23
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Amy_Bray
Zindi
Updated leaderboard
Platform · 6 Dec 2023, 13:37 · 12

Dear Zindians,

At the close of the competition a bug was discovered.

If you did not do submission selection then your private score corresponding to your best public score was chosen. Which is incorrect as the rules state:

If you do not make a selection your 2 best public leaderboard submissions will be used to score on the private leaderboard.

This bug has been corrected, the leaderboard has been re-ranked accordingly.

Emails to the top 10 will go out this afternoon requesting that your code be submitted by Friday afternoon.

Thank you for your patience,

Amy

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Sourabh

Once again your scoreboard is wrong. In case of me you choose my best private score 110.1269811 (public score=431.1896058).

But based on the two best public scores my private score

Public score = 266.2481762 Private Score= 223.7178574

Publics score = 292.6099404 Private Score= 172.3468881

Please carefully check the calculation. Because everyone has given too much time in this competition.

6 Dec 2023, 14:04
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Juliuss
Freelance

So instead of 2 best public leaderboard submissions, 2 best private leaderboard have been selected..Was wondering why theshakeup was so huge

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yanteixeira

yeah, I was wondering the same

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yanteixeira

It seems that this update has placed some users' best private scores on the leaderboard. If you check the front page, you will see several new faces with public scores ranging from 420 to 500. Before the update, these same users had lower public scores (around 160) but worse private scores.

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Juliuss
Freelance

Hopefully @amyflorida626 and team , corrects this second bug in good time before sending out the emails to the winners.

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rapsoj
University of Oxford

Hi @Zindi, I think the update may have introduced a new bug. As others have mentioned below, I think the new model has used the submissions with the best private scores for those who did not choose two submissions. This is clearly wrong, as it should be their submissions with the best public score that is chosen, as per your stated rules.

Cleary choosing the model with the best private score is a massive advantage to teams that just submitted a bunch of results, since it chooses results based on something they would have had no knowledge of during submission time.

This can easily be seen by looking at the scores that were changed. There were people who originally had submissions with a better public leaderboard score and a lower private leaderboard who now have submissions that have a a better private leaderboard score and a lower public leaderboard score, which makes no sense if their best public leaderboard should have been chosen.

6 Dec 2023, 15:00
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MICADEE
LAHASCOM

@JuliusFx@yanteixeira@Sourabh Exactly what I have been talking about in my previous post guys. I think this is pretty straightforward, according to zindi rules, only your best two public scores must be selected for any participant even though the participant didn't select his or her best two public subs scores, just like on kaggle. That's my thorough understanding of this. I stand to be corrected though. This has nothing to do with our private scores because no one has access to this not until competition ends.

My candid take.

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rapsoj
University of Oxford

Yes if the best private scores are automatically selected, it's effectively the same thing as allowing you to submit all of your predictions instead of just the best two.

This is also not great for Digital Green, since it means that the top models now are not necessarily the best ones, just ones that may have gotten closer to the top based on random chance in their private score.

I'm sure @Zindi will correct the issue once they see this thread.

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Juliuss
Freelance

sure micadee

The main issue for this competition is the outliers from the public test. So, competitors are misleading because if you fit the private score better, the public score worsens. This explains why some of the best private scores were not chosen for submission and suddenly became a top solution in the leaderboard. This happens to me as well. My selections for submissions were not the best private scores, but I made my own choices and had to accept them.

I think many of you may share the same problem. It hurts true competitors who choose their submission carefully and it's a "massive advantage to teams that just submitted a bunch of results". Hopefully, Zindi can fix this and make it a fair competition.

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Amy_Bray
Zindi

Dear all, we will look into this over the next 24 hours and get back to you.

6 Dec 2023, 17:31
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Sourabh

Please update the leaderboard.